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Found a new spot to photograph

Postby abby » Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:01 pm

Or should I have titled this post "Ode to Al Autzig" ??? :)

I took a drive up Long Pond Road in Westmore VT (located off Rte 5A near Lake Willoughby) this past weekend. Once again, I have driven by this road a million times, but never noticed the name of the road, and didn't even realize there was a pond up there. The pond itself is beautiful....there's a little island in the middle of it, and it looks like it will be a great place to visit and photograph in the Fall.

The best find for me this weekend though is there is a stream that runs along the side of the road. There were a few fire access roads that were gated or roped off, but I was able to park in front of the gate and walk in. There were little bridges that the stream runs under along these fire roads, and I was able to set up for some slow shutter speed water shots (hence the Ode to Al Autzig comment.......I am a huge fan of all of his shots like this!

Now, I know these are not Al Autzig quality, but I would love to hear any comments and suggestions for improvement.

0.6 second, f22, -3.67ev,ISO 200

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From a different fire road (a little more sun was hitting here)

1.0 second, f29, -5ev, ISO 200

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I haven't purchased any ND filters yet by the way.
Thanks for taking a peak. There's a few more photos from this weekend on my Picasa site as well.

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Postby pwt54 » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:16 am

I've been on that road a few times in the fall and it has good color. I like your waterfalls photos. I've tried a few myself. I've copied your settings and will try them.

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Postby abby » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:50 pm

Thanks for that info Phil. I was hoping that road would have some good color in the Fall. I think I'm going to really like it up there!
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Postby pwt54 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:22 am

I had only brought my Canon sx10 to the parade in Brattleboro, so when I came across that falls on the Black Mountain Road in Dummerston I couldn't use your settings on it because it only goes to f-8. That will learn me to leave the rebel at home. I'm going through the photos later and hope the photos come out alright.

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Postby abby » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:28 pm

Yup, I hear yah about the limited f stops on the "bridge" cameras. It killed me to get a decent exposure with my bridge camera using a slow shutter speed for waterfalls.
How did your parade photos come out?
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Postby pwt54 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:34 am

It was the first time I had used this camera so I was a little worried. The lighting was tough. But I did get some good ones. I've sent some to ctyanky to post and will send others later. I did give it a good workout yesterday at Dead Creek. The super macro setting is touchy but when I do it right it does great. The super zoom set at the max is a bit touchy also, but it enabled me to nail a great shot of a (I think) Yellow Warbler as it was singing. (It was yellow and it warbled, that's close enough for me.) It also did well with the flowers, damsel flies, butterflies, and birds. Up to the 250 mm range, it will not match the photos taken by the Rebel, but that super macro and 20x zoom are worth it. There is no way that I'm going to carry a one ton 500mm lense on the trails. The showy lady slippers should be coming out pretty soon. I hope to get to the Dog Pond Road in Woodbury to check them out on Sunday. Some folk from the The Nature Conservancy said there are some in the Eshqua Bog Natural Area in Hartland. The Nature Conservancy's Vermont website has a list of refuge areas that I'd like to check out now that I have time.

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Postby autzig » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:18 pm

I thought Odes were only done to dead people! I assure you that I am alive and well. Now that I think about it, Robert Burns wrote some Odes; one to a mouse and one to a louse. Oh dear.

Seriously though, you have nothing to apologize for with these photos. I like the first one a lot...nice silky water. The second is nice too but....the stream leans to the right. It should be overflowing its banks. I always use a hotshoe level when I shoot water, for exactly that reason.

Why don't you see if Andy will let you add a chapter to his little Vermont Photography book. I'd love a chapter on the Streams of Vermont. Now all you have to do is find them all, catalog them and tell us exactly where they are. GPS coordinates would really be nice. I'm sure PWT will be happy to collaborate.

I hope you have many visits to Vermont before the colors turn. Find some perfect streams for me, so I don't have to look for them myself.

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Postby pwt54 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:52 am

Yesterday I checked the Showy Lady Slippers in Woodbury and they were not ready yet. Then I went to the Cranbury Meadows Road to check out the bog area. I had forgot all about the Waterfall on that road ! The falls are close to the road and are easy to get to. I took a lot of photos at different settings. Then I remembered the falls on the Emslie Road in North Calais. So I scooted down there. These falls are harder to shot because the land is posted. You can get some good shots from the road but there is no parking. The road is lightly traveled however, so I was able to take some photos. Now I have to download them.

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Postby Andy » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:57 am

They are nice shots. My only "critical" observation (and this may just be my monitor -- its hard to evaluate exposure issues on a web-based, computer screen image, in my view), the whites look a bit blown out to me. I suspect from your comment re: the ND filters, that the light was already a bit to intense at the time you photographed these. I struggle with the pure whites in these kinds of photos. Just the process of "slowing" the water down, makes it more difficult to hold the detail in the whites.

Did you use ANY filtration here? PZ for example?
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Postby abby » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:23 pm

Hi Al,
I'd be more than happy to find some more streams for you. In fact, when I told Andy about this spot that I found, I mentioned to him that it is a place I wanted to recommend to you!
I'm thrilled you liked the photos. I know that this is the type of shot that you like, so it means a lot to me because I value your opinion so much! I didn't even notice the second shot wasn't level. I appreciate you pointing that out to me and will go back to straighten.

By the way.....sorry about the "ode". I didn't know odes were only to those no longer with us :roll:

I hope all is well with you and the family and I look forward to seeing you in October!
Carol

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Postby abby » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:24 pm

Hi Phil,
How did those waterfall shots come out??? I'd love to see them if you'd like to share!
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Postby abby » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:31 pm

Hi Andy,
I'm glad you liked these!!! Do you remember how much I have struggled in the past with this type of shot???
About the blown highlights......I'm afraid I did some of that myself in post to brighten them up a bit.
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To my eye, this second version of my first photo looks much better, and the histogram when I was shooting did not show any blown highlights. The second shot that I originally posted here may have had some blown highlights in the originals though because that spot had a bit more direct sunlight than the first.

Nope, I had no filters on my camera at the time....not even a CP.

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Postby Andy » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:15 pm

Again, Carol, it may be my monitor. Its really hard to judge from monitor to monitor unless we are working in "calibrated" environment.

Where I see the blown highlights is where the froth would be -- for example in the lower left and parts of the middle.

Essentially, they look pure white (complete absence of any color -- and therefore, detail). I still see that in the repost. It may not be possible to capture the entire range you want to capture and show detail in the dark areas without this. This may be another area where the HDRI would work (but the constantly moving water as slow SS is going to be a problem there, I would guess).

I would highly recommend you trying the PZ filter on these shots. Since you are trying to slow things down anyway, you won't care about the loss of 2 stops of light -- indeed, it may work in your favor. The PZ will get rid of a lot of unwanted reflections and often allow the lens to "see" down into the water. Not always -- but always should be looked at, IMO.
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Postby Andy » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:22 pm

So, Al: The rumours of your demise are greatly exaggerated??? :)
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Postby abby » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:02 pm

Andy wrote:So, Al: The rumours of your demise are greatly exaggerated??? :)


Oh......shut up Andy!!!!!!!!! :oops: :oops: :wink:

I wish there was an emoticon sticking it's tongue out at you that I could post (LOL) :)

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