MAD RIVER

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MAD RIVER

Postby Andy » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:17 am

Somewhere South of Granville, Alder Meadow Brook starts as a branch/tributary of the White River. It flows North along 100 until it meets with Deer Hollow Brook coming out of the National Forest and becomes the Mad River. I am unclear about exactly where this spot is, but my DeLorme map shows a “local” secondary road about 4 miles South of Warren which “feels” right. The road is just a few hundred feet and is basically a “turnoff” with a couple of picnic tables. As I drove South toward Moss Glen Falls, a splash of color behind the brook caught my eye and I pulled off into the picnic area. It was early morning and overcast and I felt that I still had good light for a while, so with a cup of fresh hot coffee, I grabbed my tripod and camera gear and decided to explore this little stream. What I found was level after level of falls and little pools and eddys everywhere. Unfortunately, I had in mind Moss Glen as a destination and only spent about an hour there. I regret that. I will go back and explore more on my next trip to Vermont. I have been identifying my photos taken here as “Alder Meadow Brook,” but now I realize from my map that it is truly the upper section of the Mad River.
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Postby Andy » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:51 am

Couldn't figure out how to edit my post -- so, replying to myself (at least somebody does <g>).

I just uploaded another Mad River shot to the photo section. The others that are there titled "Alder Meadow Brook" are technically Mad River, too and are withing a few hundred feet of the new one
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Postby pwt54 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:43 am

I use to swim in that little swimming hole next to the last picnic table at the south end of the drive.

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Postby Andy » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:41 pm

Why does it not surprise me that you have been there :). If you look at the photo gallery, I think that might be the one with the swirl in the photo?
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Postby abby » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:18 pm

Hi PWT,
I will be traveling from Southeast MA to Barton VT on Wed. Oct. 3rd. We always take Rte 93 until it ends, to Rte 91 in St. Johnsbury to exit 25 (Barton)

I was thinking about changing our route for a change of scenery and wanted to try to incorporate Andy's Mad River spot. I figured we'd need to take rte 93 to Rte 89 in New Hampshire and follow that into VT. I asked Andy's opinion and here's what he said:

There isn't really any good way to get over to 100 from I-89. You can take 4 over to Killington and catch 100 North. You can go all the way to Waturbury and go back down (seems like a backtrack to me). You could go over to 100 on Vermont 107 (Take exit 3 at Bethel). It goes NorthWest to 100. Or if you are adventurous, you could go on to Exit 4 (Randolph) and catch 12A (not 12) and take it North to Roxbury. At Roxbury (I haven't done this -- just found it on the map), find the Warren Mountain Road. On the Warren side, it changes to the Roxbury Mountain Road. It looks like it is probably gravel and unimproved, like a lot of VT back roads, but probably pretty well traveled (you could ask pwt about it -- he's sure to have been on it). On my map, sometime after you reach East Warren, the road appears to change its name to Airport Road. After you pass the airport (or the road to it) it changes again to Dump Road. Dump ends on Brook Road. Turn right on Brook and it dumps you into Main Street, which goes from the North end of town at Route 100 to the South end of town on Route 100. Looks like my spot is just over 3 miles from the south junction of Main and 100. Good luck

So, what do you think of these directions and do you have anything to add?

Thanks so much!

Abby (Carol)

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Postby abby » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:39 am

Here's a different set of directions from Andy's that I did on mapquest. Does anyone have any idea which set of directions would be the best for us to follow?

Thanks in advance!
Abby (Carol)

4: Merge onto MA-3 N toward BOSTON. 15.5 miles
5: Merge onto I-93 N (Portions toll) (Crossing into NEW HAMPSHIRE). 63.3 miles
6: Merge onto I-89 N toward LEBANON / WHITE RIVER JCT VT (Crossing into VERMONT). 83.9 miles
7: Take the VT-107 exit- EXIT 3- toward BETHEL / ROYALTON / VT-14. 0.3 miles
8: Turn RIGHT onto VT-107. 2.8 miles
9: VT-107 becomes MAIN ST / VT-12. 0.3 miles
10: Turn LEFT onto VT-12 / CHURCH ST. 0.2 miles
11: Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto PLEASANT ST / VT-12. 1.9 miles
12: Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto CAMP BROOK RD. 6.0 miles
13: CAMP BROOK RD becomes BETHEL MOUNTAIN RD. 2.7 miles
14: Turn LEFT to stay on BETHEL MOUNTAIN RD. 1.3 miles
15: Turn RIGHT onto VT-100. 16.2 miles
16: End at [673-1180] Vt Route 100
Warren, VT 05674, US
Total Est. Time: 3 hours, 45 minutesTotal Est. Distance: 199.60 miles



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[673-1180] Vt Route 100
Warren, VT 05674, US

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Postby pwt54 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:44 am

I like the Randolph route. Turn left at the end of the ramp. Drive to the stop in Randolph village and go straight. At the sharp left curve turn right for route 12A. !2A is a lonely quiet road. The Warren Mt/Roxbury Mt road will be on the left side in Roxbury Village. It is part pavement and part dirt and quite scenic at the top. It might slow down a shutterbug a bit.

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Postby pwt54 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:51 am

Whoa, you must have posted your directions while I was 2 finger typing my answer. The directions are accurate and the Bethel Mt road is a nice ride. It's paved all the way.

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Postby abby » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:51 am

Thanks so much PWT and Andy. You guys are the best!!! :wink:
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Postby Andy » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:25 am

One advantage to the Bethel Mt. Road Route (besides being paved) is that you will drive by Moss Glen Falls North of Granville and get a chance to see it yourself and draw your own conclusion. I wouldn't linger there, though, if you are tying to get to the Mad River shot while the morning light.

Let us know which way you go and what you find!
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Postby Andy » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:26 am

Paul: Scenic, do you mean there are open views from the top?
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